Comments on: High Court Affirms “Eminent” Expansion of the Stealth Cartels http://www.statesonthetake.com/blog/high-court-affirms-eminent-expansion-of-the-stealth-cartels/7/ Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:21:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.3 By: Donny Lairson http://www.statesonthetake.com/blog/high-court-affirms-eminent-expansion-of-the-stealth-cartels/7/#comment-3 Donny Lairson Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:43:00 +0000 http://www.statesonthetake.com/blog/high-court-affirms-eminent-expansion-of-the-stealth-cartels/7/#comment-3 Strong language should be drawn up immediately to be put into state constitutions at the next election. My suggestion would be to ensure that Jobs nor tax revenue be factors that Can't be considered because its arbitruary crap. In the face of power plants, roads and such put a minimum buyout rate of 7 times property value to prevent holdouts and long drawn out court proceedings. Also ensure those who wish to fight for their property are not screwed twice being paid below market value after a court orders the sale/taking of the property. In the case where the property will be turned over to a corporation of any kind for development shares to the original land owner (retained ownership) shall be granted to the effect of 20% of the corp value divided by the property owners. Upon failure of any public works or abandonment by the government land ownership is reverted back to the original owners families. Strong language should be drawn up immediately to be put into state constitutions at the next election.

My suggestion would be to ensure that Jobs nor tax revenue be factors that Can’t be considered because its arbitruary crap.

In the face of power plants, roads and such put a minimum buyout rate of 7 times property value to prevent holdouts and long drawn out court proceedings. Also ensure those who wish to fight for their property are not screwed twice being paid below market value after a court orders the sale/taking of the property.

In the case where the property will be turned over to a corporation of any kind for development shares to the original land owner (retained ownership) shall be granted to the effect of 20% of the corp value divided by the property owners.

Upon failure of any public works or abandonment by the government land ownership is reverted back to the original owners families.

]]> By: skf http://www.statesonthetake.com/blog/high-court-affirms-eminent-expansion-of-the-stealth-cartels/7/#comment-4 skf Tue, 05 Jul 2005 23:31:27 +0000 http://www.statesonthetake.com/blog/high-court-affirms-eminent-expansion-of-the-stealth-cartels/7/#comment-4 I am outraged by the Supreme Court's property ruling. What can we do???? I want to get involved. I am outraged by the Supreme Court’s property ruling. What can we do???? I want to get involved.

]]> By: Heidi Baker http://www.statesonthetake.com/blog/high-court-affirms-eminent-expansion-of-the-stealth-cartels/7/#comment-5 Heidi Baker Thu, 07 Jul 2005 14:25:27 +0000 http://www.statesonthetake.com/blog/high-court-affirms-eminent-expansion-of-the-stealth-cartels/7/#comment-5 It seems to me that there is another side to this decision that is just as sinister. Here in rural PA our local, county and state governments have been attempting to limit what a landowner can do with his own property for years. Thanks to programs like PA's "Clean and Green" we have very little rural land that can be developed affordably. Now, if a private landowner who's property is not in C&G decides he wants to subdivide some of his land and develop it but the local government wants to preserve the "rural character" of the area for the public good the local government (in our case it's the Township Supervisors) can file for adverse possession. They can even wait until after all the surveying and required engineering studies are done but before the land itself is touched, thus potentially bankrupting the rightful land owner, "just compensation" or not. It's not unusual for some of our old farmers around here to develop a part of their land to fund their retirement, but now the supervisors can bankrupt them. I can't imagine our nation's founding fathers would have approved. It seems to me that there is another side to this decision that is just as sinister. Here in rural PA our local, county and state governments have been attempting to limit what a landowner can do with his own property for years. Thanks to programs like PA’s “Clean and Green” we have very little rural land that can be developed affordably. Now, if a private landowner who’s property is not in C&G decides he wants to subdivide some of his land and develop it but the local government wants to preserve the “rural character” of the area for the public good the local government (in our case it’s the Township Supervisors) can file for adverse possession. They can even wait until after all the surveying and required engineering studies are done but before the land itself is touched, thus potentially bankrupting the rightful land owner, “just compensation” or not. It’s not unusual for some of our old farmers around here to develop a part of their land to fund their retirement, but now the supervisors can bankrupt them. I can’t imagine our nation’s founding fathers would have approved.

]]> By: Peter Smith http://www.statesonthetake.com/blog/high-court-affirms-eminent-expansion-of-the-stealth-cartels/7/#comment-6 Peter Smith Tue, 18 Apr 2006 00:13:16 +0000 http://www.statesonthetake.com/blog/high-court-affirms-eminent-expansion-of-the-stealth-cartels/7/#comment-6 Your "founding fathers" had a very convenient view of private property. When the Pilgrim Fathers first tried to settle, the local "Indians" who viewed land as belonging to the tribe, not the individual, let them have land upon which to sow their crops. In the first winter - for which the newcomers were irresponsibly unprepared - all but two of the women and many of the men and children died. It was the Indians who came to their aid and prevented the whole colony being wiped out. Yet a few years later these same "founding fathers" were affronted when their saviours wanted some of the land back for their own use. They used firearms and extreme violence to "drive the savages off our land." Note that: "our land." (and who were the "savages"?) "Trick the weak and kick the poor and never give a sucker an even break" has always been the American way from the very beginning. "Founding fathers would not have approved?" They started it, Heidi. (Good site, though. How do you get paragraph breaks in here?) Your “founding fathers” had a very convenient view of private property. When the Pilgrim Fathers first tried to settle, the local “Indians” who viewed land as belonging to the tribe, not the individual, let them have land upon which to sow their crops.

In the first winter - for which the newcomers were irresponsibly unprepared - all but two of the women and many of the men and children died. It was the Indians who came to their aid and prevented the whole colony being wiped out.

Yet a few years later these same “founding fathers” were affronted when their saviours wanted some of the land back for their own use. They used firearms and extreme violence to “drive the savages off our land.” Note that: “our land.” (and who were the “savages”?)

“Trick the weak and kick the poor and never give a sucker an even break” has always been the American way from the very beginning.

“Founding fathers would not have approved?” They started it, Heidi. (Good site, though. How do you get paragraph breaks in here?)

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